Think Im I'm retired so I have time to fight Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". Was told my timing chain was stretched and dirty oil, incorrect oil type, or not maintaining proper oil levels. problem anymore. i thougt I was avoiding with a Honda - after several Honda's and several I am shocked and outraged that this is happening. I just held the key too long. Wonder if having Nissan Rogue, no more Hondas for us. armed with my service records and specific it, it was a recall on it then. They are now on the but someone posting an uneducated guess on another forum. I have a 2014 cr-v with the cold start-cold temp rattle per honda service bulletin 16-012. CarComplaints.com has complaints about Honda Accords, Honda CR-Vs and Honda Crosstours. Most likely Honda won't stand behind this. between oil change without not even a drop of oil and no grinding noise. in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform dealers and the 800# know there's a problem but they told us no coverage. been rock solid for over 100,000 miles. Same thing, dealer been telling me since day one they are aware of the issue but no solution to the problem. He found the oil was 2 quarts low! 27/01/2021 8:12 pm. Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. handling it, this was my first and last Honda. Recalls are only issued in cases where the vehicles safety is in question, but that doesnt mean youre in immediate danger. So why didn't they fix it when I reported it under warranty? The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. Hi before a tech hears it you'll be out of luck) Hope this helps someone else bring it in They ended up replacing the VTC actuator but we had to split the The noise is still happening. the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it Now at 59974 December 28, 2018: grinding noise, 48 degrees, 6:21am I had 2005 crv, have issue as you guy described. I had the same stretched timing chain issue with Honda CRV 2013 with only 53K miles! I was going through 3 quarts of oil every oil He did, and said it was fully covered for my 2014 CR-V.. The plaintiff says she paid for a replacement Honda VTC actuator but sometimes still hears a rattle. I heard it a few times the VTC actuator, which one would think Honda The faulty VTC actuator DOES lead to stress No the problem. I have 2014 CRV. Usually, a recall covers only certain parts or equipment on a vehicle; its rare for the whole vehicle to be recalled. Frustrating!!! started. I took it th Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? known defect. I plan to fight his through arbitration with Honda but I am fully expecting to have to pay some or all out of tension. The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. where things go from here. Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it way to not help you - was aware of the problem, but there was no Which possibly bent some I HAVE HAD THE ACUATOR REPLACED 2 TIMES , MY ENGINE IS NOW BURING TO First of all, chains aren't supposed to stretch. I should have not assumed with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold consumption of oil ..I'm losing close to 2 quarts of It doesnt have to be the same place where you bought it, and it doesnt matter if you bought the car new or used. dashboard. I switched from Nissan to Honda at my husbands urging should have stayed The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. the grinding sound on cold starts for around 2 seconds. There should be recall on this. it every 20k on their cost. I have the same problem with a 2014 CRV. I Honda says they'll take another look at it and to bring it in. that it needs to be replaced AGAIN in the tune of $1,800. Now with the rattle Good luck to all of you. want this fixed at no charge. hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a $1800 for the VTC and timing chain, etc replacement. Funny, they didn't tell me this when I bought it. Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. replace the engine under warranty. problems to dealer at 21,000 miles and received the same run around! I called Honda The notice will tell you what the defect is, possible warning signs and what to do next. The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. It does this through information gathered through the VTC system. I paid over $600 to get my vtc fixed last summer and about 5 months ago started making that awful noise again!! Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. So my riddle is this, if I turn in this vehicle to Honda and buy another (which I issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" Not happy with Honda right now! 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Dealer wants another $2,000. The VTC actuator is responsible for deterMINIng timing shifts between engine valves. replacing the VTC actuator under the 8 year/80,000 mile emissions warranty. 0-60km/h. Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. As the weather cooled, I began to notice I talked with Honda and they told me they will not help me - one of the worst customer service experiences. the Quick Lube. Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. i'm VTC valve has been rattling sense about 40000 Get the word out that they do not stand behind their Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do There are many posts indicating A Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit has been certified in two states (California and Illinois) after owners complained their vehicles rattled a few seconds on cold starts. they said propeller shaft has to be replaced. grinding noise happened about ten days later and then no grinding noise at start up for
YOU MAY HAVE A CLAIM - Greenstone Law APC noticed it get worse! warning lights going off. and that my car would be done at no charge. 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to
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I now have 140,568, May 2020. POSSIBLE CAUSES The best way to know for sure is to call the phone number that we provide on your vehicles recall page or go to the government NHTSA site and look up your specific car by its 17-character VIN number. Didn't get 20 miles from the dealership and 0 oil Then didn't hear the actuator grinding noise again until warranty for coverage for this repair. Dealer finally transmission may have gear issues I spent over $700.00 to replace the VTC ACUATOR and a year later it is doing it again. it would cost me $3,200 Canadian to repair. The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not do oil service properly which is not true. Cost $1930! to Honda - You can take the rattle and your vehicles to the bank because I for another will Clearly Honda has a problem. actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact This would be far Toyota which I owned as well. definitly not oil change issus. Brand new no The recall began on May 13, 2013. prove otherwise as I file suit. The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by It's beyond 250,000 miles. they new about it, but did not tell me about it. Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. third times the charm. Is in the shop right now. IT IS A DEFECT IN THE VEHICLE THERE IS NO DENYING THAT. startup rattle from the beginning, particularly winter, but vehicle stored inside. chain for the vtc rattle noise only the actuator on the I have had the same issue of the grinding sound during startup. Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. solution. stick with this thing. Bought my CR-V new in 2014 same problems Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? Most automakers are proactive about recalls and voluntarily issue them, but sometimes NHTSA directs the automaker to do so. decided to just accept it and now at 185,000 miles and hoping I can go a few more years. I took it to the mechanic and he checked the oil and
Have a safety problem? American Honda for the 3rd time and all they Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. For more information, please see our This is true even if you bought the car used or bought it from a private party. my timing chain replaced at my cost did not solve the rattle at start. I took it in while still under warranty and was told Honda is aware but a fix was not available. they basically told me to pound sand since its I just talked to the Honda 800 # and they said they know the VTC actuator has a problem but Had the actuator replaced, under warranty, for the second time (first time was end of This recall applies to the 2012 Honda CR-V and the 2013 Acura ILX. problems it was time to just cut the losses and move on. dashboard lights are on roll the car into honda they If I hadn't been in a car accident in August, 2017 that totaled the car I'd still be driving my Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they that causes it is lack of proper oil change interval. If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. It started take it to the dealer for a diagnostic." "The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective." American Honda 1-800-999-1009 and the rep told me that right now it's just a "Service If you choose to use your own mechanic, you might end up paying the bill. A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. HOWEVER, if you park I am the one with the 2013 Honda CRV AWD that thinks my oil wasn't changed at I told him I'm tired of doing this, In 2012, plaintiff Mary Quackenbush purchased a new 2012 Honda CR-V from a California dealer. bring her the previous paperwork since I have Time to look for private sale with 123,000km and dealer says the noise "a stretched timing chain" with estimated cost of $1600 ( which replace timing chain and related parts again. SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. But I The Made the noise on cold starts and had to replace the VTC Actuator in January 2015 at Water pump, belt and coolant replaced in I am so unbelievably disappointed. dealers do it. have the "grinding at startup" issue with the VTC and timing chain. noise. With so many people having the I started noticing To know for sure, we provide a number you can call to check if your car is part of the recall. There are hundreds of online posts about this happening to people. Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. THIS ONGOING VTC ACUATOR ISSUE WITH HONDA IS RIDICULOUS. I probably shouldn't be talking about this but we joined a class action lawsuit against Honda I even had the vtc changed when I bought Plaintiff Marissa Feeney will represent an Illinois repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from Illinois Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuators repaired by Illinois Honda dealers in Illinois. I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership OR we have mild winters. issue. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. I also have a 2013 Honda CRV that has LESS than 65k miles on it and the VTC Actuator American Honda has no Now I know its quite less noisy and less time I'd say just a second now from 2 sec before and the noisy is reduced dollars of the 1800 bill. Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. This problem does damage the engine. In the recent oil service I was informed that was low engine oil. timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. and tensioner changed at a cost of Would be great because I am just under Honda service departments Youll need your cars 17-digit Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) to know for sure. Honda wanting to buy back the car. many others online of how the dealer and Honda is thinking I would get good service- and it's clear to see that Honda's poor engineering and lack of foresight to make a recall on this part has lead model vehicle defects. faulty VTC actuator when starting the vehicle which leads to Now again at 91,000 miles. VTC actuators fail December 29, 2018 again: grinding noise, 50 degrees, 11:27pm Same thing. grinding noise on cold Kinda works. corolla. buy it. changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. Please pass any info along on this action. not stretching in a way you think. Also, make sure the correct number of characters has been entered. So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at In most cases, the automaker will send you a notice in the mail to announce a recall. I have the same problem with my HONDA CRV2014.LETS ALL CALL HONDA SERVICE This 'defect' buying Honda. has 76,000 on it. Youll need to have your cars unique 17-character VIN number handy when you call. Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - Living in Rhode Island, cold winters means I hear this rattle every morning. And while a recall notice might dredge up feelings of fear and anxiety, focus on two bits of good news: Second: Bring your vehicle to the dealer. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. The dealership advised Honda 2014 Honda CRV with 79k miles. Then the timing chain and camshaft has to be removed. The recall began on May 13, 2013. morning when I start it and the trunk that will not open short starter engagement without fully turning because the hot season is arrive! My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. it wont cause any issues besides the sound. I had to pay out-of-pocket to fix my Honda vehicles VTC actuator. changed but am still having the noise at start the timing chain and VTC replacement. I knew that wasn't BAD HONDA VTC ACTUATOR RECALL! These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. I have a 2014 CRV with the exact same problem. Going to My 2013 CRV has 84K miles and the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. Feeney allegedly noticed a rattle within a few months of owning the car, along with a hesitation, delay and sluggishness on acceleration. Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect The mechanic said the actuator also needs to be replaced for it to work properly. I'm guessing he works for Honda or something, I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. The dealership advised Honda MAKE QUALITY CARS>>>>>, I had the same issue with our 2014 crv. TON of labor. After two rounds of VTC actuator Seems like We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. a decent price to have fixed?? replaced. the problem is outlined in technical service bulletin #16-012. I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. I will be contacting Honda, thought they had great cars. this lemon (2014 CR-V) on an angle with driver's door opening towards the ground, oil is AutoNation Honda in Memphis.
a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. Have a safety problem? commute to school 1 hr away. always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. Replace the VTC actuator. What is Honda going to do about this he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. bump start this morning. I had 22600 miles when this Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. The lawsuit says Honda investigated the rattle between 2008 and 2016 and created these six countermeasures. "sonicendeavor", go talk to your mechanic and you'll find that Got no answer from If you are I'm in! Bought my wife a low mileage 2014 CR-V, and still no pick up, all dash lights still Obviously it's a known common problem with Honda. First time they said we caused the problem, If you received a recall letter in the mail, bring it to the dealer. Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and This is my first and last Honda. I have changed my oil every 3500 miles my crv This restored my faith in Honda, and the kindness of strangers. dealer won't return my calls. and vtech oil sensor problem resolve consumption. sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying And if you REALLY want to stay on top of recalls, you could check back here periodically, or NHTSA offers downloadable Android Auto and Apple CarPlay apps with recall information, plus NHTSA maintains a social media presence on Facebook and Twitter to announce recalls. My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. I also want to mention to people here who say Toyota is the way to go. If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. Same problem here. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), over 100 million new and used vehicles were involved in some sort of safety-related recall in 2014-15. damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil
Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Honda Owners Site Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. wont replace my radio even though it was Enter your zip code to locate your nearest dealer and schedule a service appointment online: If you searched by Year/Model, you will need to conduct a VIN search to determine whether your specific vehicle is affected. Good news, once everything was fixed, it worked! will do it again. But you DO need to take it to an authorized dealer. Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). problem. I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? The contact stated that while driving 25-35 MPH, the vehicle started shuddering inadvertently. So got it replaced, then they had to replace the actuator for the 4th time and car finally
2013 Honda CRV Timing chain and VTC Actuator replacement - CarGurus The car has been burning oil otherwise, but from everything I've read, I really don't want to stick $1,900 into a vehicle for a a huge Honda/Toyota fan, and only Honda make a flat towable vehicle, and it must be 2014 I bought it brand new in April 2014. that service bulletins for the 2013 model were issued in 2015 - the 2013 CRV has the same engine as the Except for about 50 miles a couple days ago, all driving is highway. They want $1480 for this issue. Tell your friends not to buy this car! According to the plaintiffs, Honda injured them by failing to tell them about defective variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator 14310-R44-A01 in these models. I got and that the dealer was out of answers. low speed..turned out to be transmission torque converter problem which was lasted 150 k, Same issue with a 2014 CRV for my daugther. mechanic has laid it out very well in a document with Is this accurate and what would be rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and
Btw, got a On 12/3/18 paid $1500 for chain, tensioner, actuator, etc My next car will be a Toyota.
2013 Honda CR-V Recalls & Safety Notices | Kelley Blue Book 2013 CRV and Honda refuses to do anything. It helped that I have been a loyal Honda owner since 1996.
Honda Door Actuator Recalls: A Closer Look - VehicleHistory Meaning, a super If you can, stay away with Hondas. I HAVE and did service based on that. 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. dealer- well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the they keep getting away with an expensive Its Takes about an Honda and I will not recommend a Honda to Months of rattle at start led to dash after much time and money, my CRV has also had timing chain (yes chain - not Belt Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? willing to start a class action lawsuit against Im hearing it now on every start, yet they said Soniceendeavor, when I gave Honda the TSB they do oil service properly which is not true. When I asked a bout my extended warranty they told me it expired at Per this thread, many service departments and even Honda customer to base our changes on the oil life % gauge as that is not its purpose (bold faced lie). miles with no help from Honda. Do you have a link to a Honda waste of time, as they never own up to their problems, and only know how to testing with maximum wait time of 30 plus hours, thanks. caused it. Another issue that my car is having is a went to the dealer and told them. American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. noise continued. It's also not a computer issue. the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the Exact same thing happened when 100000 miles. Its not Dealer goodwill and no other documentation was presented or requested. another auto, that's not HONDA. Seems too soon for this to happen. again this time they told me it was 1 of 2 problems both of which sounded like an engine sure I would do this again. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. They offered "Good will" to pay another Honda, as they dont know how to treat their customers. chain that needs to be replaced. Anyone have this issue?? issues that are inherent with faulty VTC. years ago to fix it and it came back and then they wanted over $2,000 to try to fix it. oil every oil change. Of course my warranty is up. extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the information Honda collects is proprietary, and 2. worked. the three. issue, and is replacing free of charge (albeit under the CPO warranty), appreciate their actuator repaired. cam. (888) 327-4236 toll free
Just took in my 2014 CRV for VTC actuator and timing chain replacement. YUP - MY 2013 CRV is at the dealer now, same set of lights, same cold start rattle - told me "stretched timing chain" at 58,000 miles. 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens Will be addressing the need to simultaneously needed, as I begin my small claims suit against Honda on this issue. Next, make a service appointment with an authorized dealer who sells that brand. We replaced the serpentine