They are an LMT Mars-H with a 20 6.5 CM barrel, Leupold Optics Mark 5 HD 5-25 T3 reticle using 95 grain Hornady VMAX. Did not hit as hard but it was no slouch, anything it hit would notice for sure. What follows is my experience shooting the 6 ARC compared to five other calibers. Cal December 9, 2018 Leave a comment.
6mm creedmoor vs 6mm ARC in bolt action You might be surprised to discover you've come out on top! This data and these techniques can not be assumed to be safe. In simple terms, its essentially a 6mm Grendel with the Creedmoor treatment, alterations to the shoulder and casing for better feeding, more consistency, and ease of mass production.
6mm ARC vs 6 PPC vs 6 Grendel - Sniper's Hide Forum There is no reason that it shouldn't, it is basically a blown out 6mm PPC which is probably the gold standard for accurate cartridges. is One Gun To Rule Them All, New 270 Cartridges Challenge 6.5s and 7mms. No math test required.
224 Valkyrie vs 6mm ARC: Which Cartridge Wins? - The Mag Life At the moment, it remains a proprietary caliber with one source of magazines and ammo, unproven. After entering my measured capacities, measured muzzle velocity with 27 grains of VARGET under the 108 ELD-M of 2554 is now within 2 FPS of Quickloads estimated 2552 FPS. Those who are going to like or prefer the 6mm ARC will likely appreciate the 6mm ARC for its utility in either the AR 15 platform & or the mini action bolt action rifles. However, after completely missing five consecutive bucks with my 6mm, I decided that I needed to hunt with that Remington 6mm like I hunted with my 2-3/4 inch 12 gauge. The powder charge I used then is lost to history, but the bullet was a Speer 90-grain SP. Looking at putting together on of lower powder capacity 6mms in an effort to possibly extend barrel life a touch and have a nice smooth/easy shooting gun. Hornady is an obvious first choice for selecting 6mm projectiles to load the 6mm ARC with. This 6 ARC was an excellent performer, not a precision rifle but thats not what its for. And thats the subject of this article: chronicling my first loads (I did not have factory ammunition to test) and validating claims related to 6mm ARC performance. After forming some cases I shot Berger 105 hybrid targets over 27.5 grs. Ill be publishing a full overview story covering this rifle, but in the meantime, here are some specs from the CMMG Product Page: CMMGs ENDEAVOR line of rifles are now available in Hornadys new 6mm ARC (Advanced Rifle Cartridge). Contact ultimate reloader by clicking here. At the time of the 22 PPC and 6mm PPC being developed by Ferris Pindell and Dr. Louis Palmisano (thus the PP), the bench rest winners were often the 222 Remington and the 6x47 Remington (the latter being a necked-up 222 Remington Magnum). Its release as a commercial round was presaged by a number of successful 6mm wildcats like the 6mm AR based on the Grendel. Always cross-reference load data with manufacturer's published data. You may know one or two more.
Tested, selected and fielded by a specialized group within the U.S. DoD for its multipurpose combat rifle program, the versatile 6mm ARC does much of what larger cartridges can and everything that smaller cartridges cant. What explains that? The content on this website (including videos, articles,ammunition reloading data, technical articles, gunsmithing and other information) is for demonstration purposes only.
6mm ARC - Wikipedia Messages. I have handloaded the .243 Win. Hunting inside 300 meters the 300 HAMR rules that realm. This rifle is optimal for 6mm ARC because of the 20 barrel length, and the 1:7.5 twist rate. Joined: Jun 2002.
Hornady 6mm ARC Cartridge - What You Need to Know Ballistically, thanks mostly to heavy-for-caliber, high B.C. Once lasers hit the fields, the game began to change. The powder loads for the test spanned 1.6 grains and I fired 24 shots and only two were more than 1 MOA out. Brought out by Hornady just a few months ago, this moderate-sized round is based on the 6.5 Grendel and shares similar rim and body dimensions. and 6mm Rem., but it pushes them a little faster. A quality shooter can certainly compensate for 3 inches of difference, so while it's a victory for the ARC, it's a narrow win. This is the Great short, fat 6mm PPC that was developed by Dr. Louis Palmisano and Ferris Pindell. The suppressor is an X2Devgroup, Orion X. Its short at 6, light at 16 ounces, and has no backpressure eliminating excess gas. The 6mm ARC is a more aerodynamic bullet than the 6.5 Grendel.
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6mm ARC vs. 6mm BR comparison | Sniper's Hide Forum Low velocity from a short cartridge means it fits in a shorter, potentially stiffer action which can contribute to increased accuracy. Ballistic coefficients are about equal, with a slight edge going to the 6mm 108 ELD . If you are looking for reams of data or ringing steel the size of a car move on, I am NOT that guy, you will be very disappointed. Based on my best estimation, my H-4896 108 ELD-M load would produce approximately 2,754 FPS in a 24 bolt-action rifle. It started as a popular wildcat before its approval by SAAMI. I also shot mine with an Ultra 9 direct-thread suppressor. The 6mm ARC cartridge is a new SAAMI-spec cartridge based on the 6.5 Grendel case necked down for 6mm bullets, with the shoulder moved back 0.030.
6mm ARC Cartridge SAAMI Specs, Build Requirements, Videos Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Posts. No surprise there since it is about the same weight as the 6 ARC and both used Proof Research barrels. The first groups were the 6.5 Grendel cases that I modified for the 6mm ARC. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry.
6 ARC vs. What You Already Own - Is it the Next Generation - SHWAT Share. June 18, 2020 Gavin Reloading Blog 224 Valkyrie, 300 PRC, 6 ARC, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, 6mm ARC, 6mm ARC Load DAta, 6mm Creedmoor, CMMG AR-15, CMMG Endeavor, CMMG Resolute, Hornady, Long Range AR-15, New Rifle Cartridge, Precision AR-15, QuickDesign Software, QuickLoad Software, Reloading, Reloading 6mm ARC, Reloading Blog, Reloading Press, Reloading Videos, Shooting 6mm ARC, Ultimate Reloader. The .223 does have advantages, though. This increased size means the 243 has a case capacity of 53-54.8 gr H2O. .embed-container { position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.25%; height: 0; overflow: hidden; max-width: 100%; height: auto; } .embed-container iframe, .embed-container object, .embed-container embed { position: absolute; top: 0; left: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%; }, Ultimate Reloader LLC / Making with Metal Disclaimer:(by reading this article and/or watching video content you accept these terms), This section is from my 6mm ARC Announcement Post. Factory loads were available, and it was moderately popular for both varmint and deer hunting and target shooting. With this testing behind me, I must say it was fun, I enjoyed it and will keep testing as new ammunition is available. Thankfully most bantering moved back to more pressing issues like high demand (and low supply) of firearms or ammunition and that pesky election coming up in a few short months. Im referring to the 6mm Creedmoor, which is simply the 6.5 Creedmoor case necked down with no other change.
6mm ARC vs 243: Cartridge Comparison by Ammo.com I think the point of the arc is that it works in an ar 15. And it made the new round available in the very attractive and accurate Model 700. If I was gonna go to a 6mm cartridge I would either do 6x47lapua because I already brass and all I need is a smaller neck bushing, or I would go all in on 6br. The Hornady 6mm ARC is at its best with long for caliber, high BC bullets like this Berger 108-grain Elite Hunter. Legend, 450 Bushmaster. Clovered groups were the norm for both. LMT MWS, 20 224V, Sig Sauer Tango 6, 3-18 MRAD Dev-L using Federal GMM 90 grain SMK and an 18 SS Match 6.8 SPC with 110 Grain VMAX. Reply. While it did well the clear winner was the 6CM, high BC and extra velocity are hard to overcome at this range.
6mm BR vs 6mm BRA vs 6mm Dasher - PrecisionRifleBlog.com There are 6ARC bolt guns out there. The short reality is somewhat different. Probably not. CMMG MK47 Banshee Review 25 Hogs Plus Coyotes Helped the Research, Top 5 Braced Pistols for Hog Hunting in 2020, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykTfyrMiXps, Remington at Gunsite! Range Report 6mm ARC vs 6 PPC vs 6 Grendel. That doesnt take anything away from what the 6 ARC does and the companies who developed it. Long-range started with a cold shot at 600 meters using the reticle followed by one at 1100 meters using confirmed elevation dialed in, holding for wind. I to have a precision .224 V and would love to see a real world side be side comparison with the 6 ARC. case necked up, made especially for ARs. bullets straight and seated above the powder reservoir. The benchrest crowd has not been overlooked in the 6mm derby, and one cartridge literally rewrote the record book. The current reincarnation of this round is the 6mm BR Norma, with essentially the same case dimensions. Curious? Quickload can be frustrating when there is more than 10 FPS difference between calculated and measured MV. And just in case some hunter wanted to knock off a deer with his .244 rifle, the company also offered a 90-grain loading. The 6mm Advanced Rifle Cartridge (638mm), or 6mm ARC for short, is a 6 mm (.243) caliber intermediate rifle cartridge introduced by Hornady in 2020, as a low-recoil, high-accuracy long-range cartridge, designed for use in the AR-15 platform at request of a specialized group within the U.S. DoD for its multipurpose combat rifle program. Its case is bigger and its report louder, but it is deadly effective in the field. Most problems outside a war zone are handled nicely with 20 rounds and a couple of spare magazines. Short, relatively fat cartridges concentrate powder near the ignition flame for an even, consistent burn with a tendency to improve muzzle velocity consistency. (The company envisioned it as primarily a deer-hunting round, with occasional use on varmints.) The 6mm ARC does what much larger cartridges can and everything that smaller cartridges can't. It delivers substantially better ballistics than the 223 and offers a much lighter gun/ammo system with 30% less weight than the AR-10/308 Win system. bullets from the magazine and not be limited to being a single shot. With the super bullets and modern powders of today, I cant imagine a better deer and antelope round. Copyright Ron Spomer Outdoors document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) Comparing 6mm ARC to 6mm CR is is apples and oranges again. This made sense. it looks like the 6mm ARC is 1.490 and the grendel case is 1.52, so not much of a shortening if really at all. Copyright 2020 SHWAT | All Right Reserved. Review: Hornady 6mm ARC. After that, it was the 6.5 and 6CM show. This is, after all, a rifle forum and accuracy matters! It doesn't need a .308 sized action to work. 6mm ARC vs 6mm BR. Ok from the perspective of one 6mm ARC lover. Truth be told, the magnum race is still underway. While almost any combination of components seems to shoot well, my favorite powders are Hybrid 100V, Reloder 17, and Power Pro 4000MR. Designed to meet the needs of the worlds toughest critics, the 6mm ARC utilizes efficient, high-BC bullets to deliver unprecedented performance from the AR-15 platform. $1.75/Round. No knobs, just a hold using the reticle, find it, read the wind, hold, and press, adjust as needed and repeat. Ammo capacity is about the same, 20 rounds with the longer Grendel mags. Advanced Marksmanship Unit. I did a ladder test one time at 300 meters on an electronic target, the Norwegian ones that have verified accuracy. For me because I have a cz527 I can convert enough said. Thank you for this timely video. The 224V and 6 ARC were identical to shoot and will probably stay my dedicated 1000 yard rifle (s) both ringing steel pretty easily. The .240 Wby. I have a precision set up AR in 224 Valkyrie. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. of Israeli Defense Forces, joins David Fortier for an exclusive interview for Shotgun News. Fred Huntington, founder of RCBS, developed a then-new 6mm cartridge by necking down the .257 Roberts case. Will it become my 1000 yards rifle, maybe, it is working against the 224V and the jury is still out and will be until I get my hands on their TAP round, Ill keep you posted. As the dust settled and reality set in this dissipated a bit.
6mm ARC vs 243: The Low Recoil Rifle Rounds : r/ammo Some smaller capacity, low velocity rounds are tailored for sub-sonic, low-report firing for clandestine military engagements. I shot out to 700 yards next with .4 to .5 MOA accuracy and ended the day putting 3 out of 3 shots on the 900 yard gong in a .4 MOA group. Twist rate is 1:7.5 to stabilize the long 105- to 108-grain high B.C. It still turns the steel and is very consistent holding 9 mils at the top. You must log in or register to reply here. Modern Outfitters MC7, Proof Research 22 6CM, Bushnell Elite Tactical XRS 4.5-30, Hornady 108 grain ELDM. But since there is no factory ammo, 24 Nosler shooters must handload. That wont change and logistically the 6 ARC is still at baby steps. (In the 1960s, Speer made a 105-grain RN just for the .244 Rem.) It would seem to make a dandy handgun round as well. The newest 6mm factory round is the recently announced 6mm ARC (Advanced Rifle Cartridge). Image shows 243 Winchester, 6mm Remington, 240 Weatherby Magnum, older and faster than the Hornady 6mm ARC. While it is the same length of 20, my twist is faster at 7 rather than Gavins 7.5.
6mm ARC Rifles | Wilson Combat Which it does pretty well within those limitations. When youre shooting dozens and dozens of rounds in a single competition, barrel life matters. I also measured five fired but not resized factory 6mm ARC cases. Jeff, I would have it fluted well to reduce weight and chop +/- 20" - with 95 BTs, it will be a deer slayer, varmint bullets for said creatures. Their 106 grain TAP round looks interesting with a .580 G1 BC but not available right now, will have to come back later on that. If the wind is changing from 4 -7 miles an hour (and it ususally is), you will have more trouble bracketing or holding the 6BR in the 10 or X ring. This colored our perception of lower velocity rounds. Winchesters strategy for the .243 was twofold and well thought out. The 6mm ARC was designed to match specific DOD requirements while fitting in the AR15 platform. Remington surmised that the .244 would be used mostly as a varmint cartridge, with only an occasional application on deer-sized game, so the initial factory ammo was loaded with a 75-grain bullet. Commercial 6mm ARC loads feature bullets selected to deliver ideal performance for hunting, match shooting, and personal protection applications. bullets. Shots were aimed from a bi-pod, the rifle on the bench with me standing behind it. The 6mm Rem. Hunter aiming AR-15 rifle for which the Hornady 6.5 ARC was created. Unless youre carrying this into combat, Im not sure it matters. 6mm ARC has the potential to be the most versatile cartridge of all time for a few reasons: (1) 6mm ARC can handle projectiles anywhere between 55 and 115 gr. The rim diameter of the 6mm ARC is 0.441 inches, while the 243 is slightly larger at 0.471 inches. Hunters may see an advantage as the ELDX and other hunting bullets are tested. The new Mossberg rifles chambered for the new 6mm ARC should give similar results with even less recoil -- not that the old 243 Win. V-MAX Item No. Designed for superior long-range accuracy, the ENDEAVOR line features a 20-inch barrel so that you can squeeze out every drop of ballistic performance from this exciting new caliber. Like the grendel though you probably don't want to run high pressures on an ar bolt though. What does the 6 ARC do that the 6 BR REM hasn't been doing for over 50 years? We're going backwards! Maybe in a rural area where ranges stretch out, but movement here will be a rarity. The ARC seems to be knocking on the heels of a BR. Making those tweaks often feels like creating a powder that doesnt really exist. Geissele fixed gas block was retained with no change in brass ejection pattern or bolt speed. If you already have an AR chambered in 6.5 Grendel, the ONLY thing you need to change is the barrel.
6mm ARC vs 6mm BR Honey Badger, XM2010, C22, R4, MSR, CSR, AAC, BARNES BULLETS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykTfyrMiXps). remains a runaway hit to this day. If you want to shoot at distance with your AR-15, this is the cartridge. An eighteen-inch barrel, maybe even a. Your email address will not be published. In my mind, if 6BR would readily fit in a small frame AR there would be no reason for 6ARC. Second, it was chambered in the delightful Winchester Model 70 Featherweight, which was a major factor in the .243s huge success. It accepts all the same components as the Grendel, including the magazine and bolt, so all you need is a 6mm-specific barrel. The .222 Remington, introduced in 1950, was top dog in benchrest circles until the advent of the PPCs, after which, the 6mm PPC was used by virtually all serious benchrest competitors. However, I must confess that Hornadys factory loads shoot so well that the reloader is hard-pressed to better them. WARNING: The load development techniques and load data shown in this video are experimental and are for DEMONSTRATION PURPOSES ONLY. Wildcatters have had a field day with the 6mms, and the list of their creations is long. Will it supplant mainstream calibers? and puts more impact splash on steel plates than any .224 rounds. But the 6mm ARC drops 22.2 inches. Those held a water weight of 34.74 grains with a SD of .14 grains. Aug 11, 2020 . In the 1970s, I had a Remington Model 700 BDL so chambered, and I took my first Texas whitetail with it. Or it fits the extra-short AR-15 platform rifles beloved and preferred by many shooters. 6mm AR (L), 6mm BR (R) Good luck, John 1shot Mar 4, 2013 #4 | 0 comments. Reduced recoil minimizes flinching and enables shooters to see their hits or misses so they can correct for subsequent shots. Head diameter is .441, a bit less than the .535" head of the short-lived 243 WSSM which was a lot faster than the ARC. SuperCub.
6mm GT: Is This the Newest Precision Ammo Niche? - Guns.com All Rights Reserved. How about the 26, 27, 28, and 30 Noslers? These developments are interesting, and the supreme accuracy achieved by several of the wildcat cartridges make them worthy of mention here. Image shows 6.5 Grendel cartridge, parent case of the 6mm ARC. 6BR is the easy buttonstandard bolt face, top-quality brass, 30.0gr Varget under any 105-108gr match bullet to start. I am a much better bolt gun shooter than AR shooter. !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=/^http:/.test(d.location)? Some examples include the 6mm-204 and the 6x45. Using a LabRadar chronograph to measure velocities, we saw an average of . Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. It would also be used as a deer rifle for new shooters (small deer, sitka blacktails). Yes it is designed to run in AR15-platform rifles. Follow @UReloader
Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. Its all about the lack of correlation between mapping out rounds on a computer and sending them downrange at targets measured in yards. Photo shows 5 popular short rounds for the AR 15 platform, same short action the Hornady 6mm ARC is engineered to fit. Twist rate was one turn in 10 inches, which handled the 100-grain deer bullets nicely.
Is Hornady's 6 mm ARC the Best AR-15 Round Ever Made? Once we could pinpoint exact distance to target, maximum velocity didnt matter as much. The 6mm ARC produces a larger splash signature that allows shooters to self-spot impacts and make rapid adjustments. ZEV cleaned house using the David Tubb DTR reticle.
6mm ARC Reloading - What You Need to Know - Firearms News Company literature in 1955 described both bullets as Soft Point.. Cartridge experimentation was in its heyday in the 1950s, and it was a rare cartridge case that didnt get shortened, blown out, or necked up or down.